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		By: h w looi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 08:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Erratum:

Corrected version of last paragraph after checking with source: 

&quot;For instance the &quot;basket selling price&quot; of REE in Lynas is about $30/kg or $30,000 per tonne and the contribution of shipping and other transport costs to this one tonne is less then $1,000 or less  than 3% of the selling price!&quot;]]></description>
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<p>Corrected version of last paragraph after checking with source: </p>
<p>&#8220;For instance the &#8220;basket selling price&#8221; of REE in Lynas is about $30/kg or $30,000 per tonne and the contribution of shipping and other transport costs to this one tonne is less then $1,000 or less  than 3% of the selling price!&#8221;</p>
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		By: h w looi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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Quote Pete Sin: &quot; Why they do not build in thier own country since so much benefit will bring to a country?&quot;

COMMENT:

Lynas built in Malaysia because of economic reasons, just like the radioactive TIN ore from Australia, imported and shipped all the way to MSC (Malaysian Smelting Corporation) in Penang for refining. 

REE ore was and to some extent is still being shipped all the way from Australia and China to the 40 year old REE plant in La Rochelle in France for refining.

In the water scarce arid area of Western Australia, the labour cost is very high. 

For instance, a CLEANER IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA IS PAID THE MALAYSIAN EQUIVALENT OF RM 150,000 PER YEAR AND A TECHNICIAN WELL OVER RM 300,000 !

Easy access to cheap water, low gas price, near to suppliers of Sulphuric acids and other chemicals, next to a first class port and a 12 year tax break are also factors which persuaded Lynas to build their plant in Gebeng


1.  Chemical Engineer : Malaysia = RM 10,000/month

                                       Australia = RM 40,000/month
*

2.  Water

Malaysia = RM 0.84/ cu m

Australia = RM 6.00/cu m

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3.  Electricity :

Malaysia=RM 0.23 /kWh
*
Australia=RM 0.96 /kWh
*

4.  Caustic Soda

Malaysia = RM 500/ton

Australia = RM 1,500/ton

All in all, the cost of shipping the ore to Malaysia constitute only a fraction of the total cost of production (COP).

For instance the &quot;basket selling price&quot; of REE in Lynas is about $30/kg or $30,000 per tonne and the contribution of shipping cost to this one tonne is only about $1,000 to $2,000 or only 3.3% to 6.6% of the selling price!


Dr Looi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*<br />
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Quote Pete Sin: &#8221; Why they do not build in thier own country since so much benefit will bring to a country?&#8221;</p>
<p>COMMENT:</p>
<p>Lynas built in Malaysia because of economic reasons, just like the radioactive TIN ore from Australia, imported and shipped all the way to MSC (Malaysian Smelting Corporation) in Penang for refining. </p>
<p>REE ore was and to some extent is still being shipped all the way from Australia and China to the 40 year old REE plant in La Rochelle in France for refining.</p>
<p>In the water scarce arid area of Western Australia, the labour cost is very high. </p>
<p>For instance, a CLEANER IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA IS PAID THE MALAYSIAN EQUIVALENT OF RM 150,000 PER YEAR AND A TECHNICIAN WELL OVER RM 300,000 !</p>
<p>Easy access to cheap water, low gas price, near to suppliers of Sulphuric acids and other chemicals, next to a first class port and a 12 year tax break are also factors which persuaded Lynas to build their plant in Gebeng</p>
<p>1.  Chemical Engineer : Malaysia = RM 10,000/month</p>
<p>                                       Australia = RM 40,000/month<br />
*</p>
<p>2.  Water</p>
<p>Malaysia = RM 0.84/ cu m</p>
<p>Australia = RM 6.00/cu m</p>
<p>*<br />
3.  Electricity :</p>
<p>Malaysia=RM 0.23 /kWh<br />
*<br />
Australia=RM 0.96 /kWh<br />
*</p>
<p>4.  Caustic Soda</p>
<p>Malaysia = RM 500/ton</p>
<p>Australia = RM 1,500/ton</p>
<p>All in all, the cost of shipping the ore to Malaysia constitute only a fraction of the total cost of production (COP).</p>
<p>For instance the &#8220;basket selling price&#8221; of REE in Lynas is about $30/kg or $30,000 per tonne and the contribution of shipping cost to this one tonne is only about $1,000 to $2,000 or only 3.3% to 6.6% of the selling price!</p>
<p>Dr Looi</p>
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		By: h w looi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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Quote Pete Sin: &quot;What direct benefit Lynas invest in Malaysia&quot; Unquote

Comment:

Even a primary school child should know that the construction of a multi-billion dollar industrial plant would bring enormous financial benefits to the local community as well as to the country.

Construction of the plant had provided a substantial boost to suppliers of commodities like concrete and steel and manufacturers of hundreds of other components. For example, the plant had used thousands of cubic metres of  concrete—as well as 
Thousands of tons of steel and miles of piping
Hundreds of miles of electric wiring and hundreds of  electrical components and all these are supplied by our local contractors.
The construction of the plant itself would had added hundreds of millions to the gross domestic product. 

Each year, the plant will generate billions  in sales of the rare earth (economic output) and millions more in total labour income. These figures include both direct and secondary effects. The direct effects reflect the plant’s expenditures for goods, services and labour. The secondary effects include subsequent spending attributable to the presence of the plant and its employees as plant expenditures filter through the local economy (e.g., restaurants and shops buying goods and hiring employees). 


And the subsequent production of the plant is expected to be in the billions of ringgit and this is considered to be part of the country&#039;s gross domestic product (GDP). Billions more would be added to the GDP as a result of the spin-off effect.

And when our GDP is increased by the billions, the government will be allowed to print more billions of ringgit (CREATING MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR ) to pay for the schools, hospitals, subsidies and scholarships etc for the people, without any devaluation of our ringgit by the foreigners.

Key Facts
Each year, the  plant will generate millions to billions of ringgit as a spin-off effect in sales of goods and services in the local community and millions more in total labour income.
Operation of the plant creates more than 350 highly paid permanent jobs. These jobs pay much more than those working the super markets or places like Kentucky Fried Chicken.
The permanent jobs at the plant create an equivalent number of additional jobs in the local area to provide the goods and services necessary to support the plant work force (e.g., grocery stores, dry cleaners, car dealers). Even the sex workers in Kuantan would benefit!
Construction of the new plant had created up to thousands of jobs at peak construction.

Local contractors had benefited enormously from the construction of the plant, in terms of hundreds of millions of ringgit

The yearly production of billions of ringgit of rare earth will add billions to our GDP and produce billions in export earnings (even though the money belongs to Lynas share holders, the national statistics will show up as our own in terms of GDP growth and export growth).

The economic job multiplier effect of any industrial plant is 4 to 5. So although the Lynas plant gives direct employment to 350 high paying jobs to the Kampong folks, the actual number of jobs created is more in the region of 1,750 !



Why do we have to give Lynas the 12 yrs tax free incentive?


Quote Optiplex330: 

&quot;Giving tax break is very common to entice people to set up business. If you are an Indian or Chinese your forebear coming from India or China know that very well. They were enticed to come to Malaysia to open up the country, and land were practically given free. Old people told me their land rental is a single pepper corn. Those who don&#039;t know about tax break know zero about businesses. Having said that, I think the maximum is 10 yrs so Lynas is unusual in that it is given 12 years.

A classic example: Businesses have to give Bumi 30% share but when Intel came to Penang, they were allowed SPECIAL treatment and don&#039;t have to give a single share to Bumi (may be this explain the extra 2 yrs tax break?). Why? This is because the government badly wanted Intel because when they come, they will bring along an entire electronic industry to Malaysia. So while government do not directly benefited from Intel, the follow on industry created by Intel greatly benefited Malaysia.

And also for this reason, those who think Lynas produces only about 300 jobs and no tax revenue for Malaysia are just being short sighted. They don&#039;t know that because of Lynas, a Green Technology industry could be born and Siemens is the 1st to announce coming precisely because of Lynas. But because of Anti-Lynas, Siemens may pull out so there go more jobs and tax revenue for Malaysia.&quot;

In Other Words, The Plant WILL Boost Local and Country&#039;s  Economy.
The Lynas plant WILL provide substantial economic benefits during the decades of operation. The jobs, employee&#039;s taxes, and direct and secondary spending WILL strengthen the economy.

SO DO NOT ASK THE NON-PHYSICAL and RATHER CHILDISH QUESTION OF WHAT BENEFIT DO MALAYSIA GET FROM THE LYNAS PLANT!

Dr Looi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*<br />
Quote Pete Sin: &#8220;What direct benefit Lynas invest in Malaysia&#8221; Unquote</p>
<p>Comment:</p>
<p>Even a primary school child should know that the construction of a multi-billion dollar industrial plant would bring enormous financial benefits to the local community as well as to the country.</p>
<p>Construction of the plant had provided a substantial boost to suppliers of commodities like concrete and steel and manufacturers of hundreds of other components. For example, the plant had used thousands of cubic metres of  concrete—as well as<br />
Thousands of tons of steel and miles of piping<br />
Hundreds of miles of electric wiring and hundreds of  electrical components and all these are supplied by our local contractors.<br />
The construction of the plant itself would had added hundreds of millions to the gross domestic product. </p>
<p>Each year, the plant will generate billions  in sales of the rare earth (economic output) and millions more in total labour income. These figures include both direct and secondary effects. The direct effects reflect the plant’s expenditures for goods, services and labour. The secondary effects include subsequent spending attributable to the presence of the plant and its employees as plant expenditures filter through the local economy (e.g., restaurants and shops buying goods and hiring employees). </p>
<p>And the subsequent production of the plant is expected to be in the billions of ringgit and this is considered to be part of the country&#8217;s gross domestic product (GDP). Billions more would be added to the GDP as a result of the spin-off effect.</p>
<p>And when our GDP is increased by the billions, the government will be allowed to print more billions of ringgit (CREATING MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR ) to pay for the schools, hospitals, subsidies and scholarships etc for the people, without any devaluation of our ringgit by the foreigners.</p>
<p>Key Facts<br />
Each year, the  plant will generate millions to billions of ringgit as a spin-off effect in sales of goods and services in the local community and millions more in total labour income.<br />
Operation of the plant creates more than 350 highly paid permanent jobs. These jobs pay much more than those working the super markets or places like Kentucky Fried Chicken.<br />
The permanent jobs at the plant create an equivalent number of additional jobs in the local area to provide the goods and services necessary to support the plant work force (e.g., grocery stores, dry cleaners, car dealers). Even the sex workers in Kuantan would benefit!<br />
Construction of the new plant had created up to thousands of jobs at peak construction.</p>
<p>Local contractors had benefited enormously from the construction of the plant, in terms of hundreds of millions of ringgit</p>
<p>The yearly production of billions of ringgit of rare earth will add billions to our GDP and produce billions in export earnings (even though the money belongs to Lynas share holders, the national statistics will show up as our own in terms of GDP growth and export growth).</p>
<p>The economic job multiplier effect of any industrial plant is 4 to 5. So although the Lynas plant gives direct employment to 350 high paying jobs to the Kampong folks, the actual number of jobs created is more in the region of 1,750 !</p>
<p>Why do we have to give Lynas the 12 yrs tax free incentive?</p>
<p>Quote Optiplex330: </p>
<p>&#8220;Giving tax break is very common to entice people to set up business. If you are an Indian or Chinese your forebear coming from India or China know that very well. They were enticed to come to Malaysia to open up the country, and land were practically given free. Old people told me their land rental is a single pepper corn. Those who don&#8217;t know about tax break know zero about businesses. Having said that, I think the maximum is 10 yrs so Lynas is unusual in that it is given 12 years.</p>
<p>A classic example: Businesses have to give Bumi 30% share but when Intel came to Penang, they were allowed SPECIAL treatment and don&#8217;t have to give a single share to Bumi (may be this explain the extra 2 yrs tax break?). Why? This is because the government badly wanted Intel because when they come, they will bring along an entire electronic industry to Malaysia. So while government do not directly benefited from Intel, the follow on industry created by Intel greatly benefited Malaysia.</p>
<p>And also for this reason, those who think Lynas produces only about 300 jobs and no tax revenue for Malaysia are just being short sighted. They don&#8217;t know that because of Lynas, a Green Technology industry could be born and Siemens is the 1st to announce coming precisely because of Lynas. But because of Anti-Lynas, Siemens may pull out so there go more jobs and tax revenue for Malaysia.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Other Words, The Plant WILL Boost Local and Country&#8217;s  Economy.<br />
The Lynas plant WILL provide substantial economic benefits during the decades of operation. The jobs, employee&#8217;s taxes, and direct and secondary spending WILL strengthen the economy.</p>
<p>SO DO NOT ASK THE NON-PHYSICAL and RATHER CHILDISH QUESTION OF WHAT BENEFIT DO MALAYSIA GET FROM THE LYNAS PLANT!</p>
<p>Dr Looi</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jack,

You probably want to review your story about the Lynas plant in Malaysia.  Seemed it&#039;s not as state-of-the-art as you have asserted....  It is facing many technical and equipment problems.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/rare-earths-miner-lynas-admits-further-output-trouble/story-e6frg9df-1226730292287]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>You probably want to review your story about the Lynas plant in Malaysia.  Seemed it&#8217;s not as state-of-the-art as you have asserted&#8230;.  It is facing many technical and equipment problems.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/rare-earths-miner-lynas-admits-further-output-trouble/story-e6frg9df-1226730292287" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/rare-earths-miner-lynas-admits-further-output-trouble/story-e6frg9df-1226730292287</a></p>
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		By: Pete Sin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I not a chemist, and seriously i know nothing how harmful Redioactive waste(come out from LAMP) can harm a human body, basically i am very normal human being, not Ganghi or Mother Teresa  (which mean i not great!!!). 

So, as a normal human being,  i hope to get all you guys agreed on &quot;human are selfish&quot;, which mean we always go something should benefit us first. (Am i right? yes not all but majority, if you think you are not, email me (shyealimsin@gmail.com) for a debate, i let you know how selfish you are!!!!) 

Actually , the mother earth (our environment) already destroy by human selfishness..... So, stop anti Lynas because anyone of you cares.... Obviously, in bigger picture non of you cares. But, as a Malaysian, as a human being and as a business, man i looking only in benefit!!!!

So, Lynas and Malaysia Government, please answer me this!!!!!

For Malaysia Government!!!
1) What direct benefit Lynas invest in Malaysia (So me the data)
2) How this profit can be sustain? or is it sustainable(i mean profit sustaiable) average annual growth rate and percantage of GDP??
3)Risks assessment (Is the profit above is cover the opportunity cost risks loss??)
4)Why Lynas choose Malaysia if the profit so attractive?
5)Why they do not build in thier own country since so much benefit will bring to a country?

For Lynas

1)Dato Looi said : AND SO IT IS SILLY TO ASK LYNAS TO SEND THE &quot;RADIOACTIVE WASTE&quot; OUT OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE &quot;the radioactive waste&quot; NO LONGER EXIST after blending !

Regulatory limits on radioactivity in foods (source: IAEA)

USA foodstuff = 1.20 bq/g (1,200 bq/kg)

EU foodstuff = 1.25 bq/g (1,250 bq/kg)

Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).

Total &quot;waste&quot; from Lynas plant = 290,400 tonnes/yr consisting of:

1. water leach purification residue (WLP) = 64,000 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 6 bq/g

2. flue gas desulphurisation residue (FGD) = 55,800 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.049 bq/g

3. Neutralisation underflow residue (NUF) = 170,600 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.029 bq/g

Average Malaysian soil &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.082 bq/g

if we are to mix the WLP, FGD and NUF together, we will end up with a mixture of &quot;waste&quot; with a radioactivity of only 1.349 bq/g and if we add an equal amount of Malaysian soil to the mixture we will end up with a valuable mixture of soil enriched with magnesium, calcium and phosphate with a radioactivity of only 0.715 bq/g.

And since this is way below 1 bq/g, it is internationally considered non-radioactive including in Malaysia, the USA and the EU.

Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).

Dominated by cesium-137 and SR-90, these levels were set by organisations like the IAEA and UNSCEAR after decades of study.... (thats too long )

My question is, is that true? If true , then why not for your 3rd phase construction using the waste from that to build??? I will do the mixing for you. 

2) Why you choose Malaysia? I believe if your deal are so harmless and generate so much benefit for a country , you should build it in your own country  ( as  i said i believe human are selfish so why you give such good benefit to help us? )

3) Do all the safety aspect are in consideration? And the processing cause the environmental problem is not a news how you can prove your processing are safe?

4) Do your Chief research engineer from China Bautou? While they have the biggest scandal of pollution create by Rare earth processing. ( that&#039;s make your ground of the plant is safe ground shaken.)

5) Why only hire Malays to work??? 400 Staff 99% Malays can you explain?  Malaysia have 3 major race atleast so the ratio is just not justify. 

SO, i need answer for all this to judge should MALAYSIA to reject this LAMP in MALAYSIA!!!! But i believe any person have sense of human(selfishness) should get the answer already.  and clearly this Fucking LAMP and not making Malaysia Brighter!!!!


For the fuck sake of Mr JACK LIFTON , since you so impress about this fucking LAMP, why not take this LAMP and tell MR Obama make USA brigther??? Give such comment. Mind your own country shiT!!


A Malaysian that Love Malaysia and love being a fucking selfish human!!!
Pete Sin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I not a chemist, and seriously i know nothing how harmful Redioactive waste(come out from LAMP) can harm a human body, basically i am very normal human being, not Ganghi or Mother Teresa  (which mean i not great!!!). </p>
<p>So, as a normal human being,  i hope to get all you guys agreed on &#8220;human are selfish&#8221;, which mean we always go something should benefit us first. (Am i right? yes not all but majority, if you think you are not, email me (shyealimsin@gmail.com) for a debate, i let you know how selfish you are!!!!) </p>
<p>Actually , the mother earth (our environment) already destroy by human selfishness&#8230;.. So, stop anti Lynas because anyone of you cares&#8230;. Obviously, in bigger picture non of you cares. But, as a Malaysian, as a human being and as a business, man i looking only in benefit!!!!</p>
<p>So, Lynas and Malaysia Government, please answer me this!!!!!</p>
<p>For Malaysia Government!!!<br />
1) What direct benefit Lynas invest in Malaysia (So me the data)<br />
2) How this profit can be sustain? or is it sustainable(i mean profit sustaiable) average annual growth rate and percantage of GDP??<br />
3)Risks assessment (Is the profit above is cover the opportunity cost risks loss??)<br />
4)Why Lynas choose Malaysia if the profit so attractive?<br />
5)Why they do not build in thier own country since so much benefit will bring to a country?</p>
<p>For Lynas</p>
<p>1)Dato Looi said : AND SO IT IS SILLY TO ASK LYNAS TO SEND THE &#8220;RADIOACTIVE WASTE&#8221; OUT OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE &#8220;the radioactive waste&#8221; NO LONGER EXIST after blending !</p>
<p>Regulatory limits on radioactivity in foods (source: IAEA)</p>
<p>USA foodstuff = 1.20 bq/g (1,200 bq/kg)</p>
<p>EU foodstuff = 1.25 bq/g (1,250 bq/kg)</p>
<p>Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).</p>
<p>Total &#8220;waste&#8221; from Lynas plant = 290,400 tonnes/yr consisting of:</p>
<p>1. water leach purification residue (WLP) = 64,000 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 6 bq/g</p>
<p>2. flue gas desulphurisation residue (FGD) = 55,800 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.049 bq/g</p>
<p>3. Neutralisation underflow residue (NUF) = 170,600 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.029 bq/g</p>
<p>Average Malaysian soil &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.082 bq/g</p>
<p>if we are to mix the WLP, FGD and NUF together, we will end up with a mixture of &#8220;waste&#8221; with a radioactivity of only 1.349 bq/g and if we add an equal amount of Malaysian soil to the mixture we will end up with a valuable mixture of soil enriched with magnesium, calcium and phosphate with a radioactivity of only 0.715 bq/g.</p>
<p>And since this is way below 1 bq/g, it is internationally considered non-radioactive including in Malaysia, the USA and the EU.</p>
<p>Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).</p>
<p>Dominated by cesium-137 and SR-90, these levels were set by organisations like the IAEA and UNSCEAR after decades of study&#8230;. (thats too long )</p>
<p>My question is, is that true? If true , then why not for your 3rd phase construction using the waste from that to build??? I will do the mixing for you. </p>
<p>2) Why you choose Malaysia? I believe if your deal are so harmless and generate so much benefit for a country , you should build it in your own country  ( as  i said i believe human are selfish so why you give such good benefit to help us? )</p>
<p>3) Do all the safety aspect are in consideration? And the processing cause the environmental problem is not a news how you can prove your processing are safe?</p>
<p>4) Do your Chief research engineer from China Bautou? While they have the biggest scandal of pollution create by Rare earth processing. ( that&#8217;s make your ground of the plant is safe ground shaken.)</p>
<p>5) Why only hire Malays to work??? 400 Staff 99% Malays can you explain?  Malaysia have 3 major race atleast so the ratio is just not justify. </p>
<p>SO, i need answer for all this to judge should MALAYSIA to reject this LAMP in MALAYSIA!!!! But i believe any person have sense of human(selfishness) should get the answer already.  and clearly this Fucking LAMP and not making Malaysia Brighter!!!!</p>
<p>For the fuck sake of Mr JACK LIFTON , since you so impress about this fucking LAMP, why not take this LAMP and tell MR Obama make USA brigther??? Give such comment. Mind your own country shiT!!</p>
<p>A Malaysian that Love Malaysia and love being a fucking selfish human!!!<br />
Pete Sin</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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If Lynas DID NOT SEPARATE OUT THEIR &quot;WASTE&quot; INTO the 3 COMPONENTS i.e. WLP, FGD and NUF, the Lynas &quot;waste&quot; would have a specific activity of only 1.35 Bq/g.

1.35 Bq/g is only marginally above the &quot;safe to eat&quot; level in the EU and the USA  of 1.25 Bq/g and 1.2 Bq/g respectively.

AND IF WE ADD AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MALAYSIAN SOIL TO THE ABOVE NON-SEPARATED &quot;WASTE&quot; THE ACTIVITY IS ONLY = 0.72 Bq/g.

0.72 Bq/g  is well within the international (including Malaysia, the EU and the USA) SAFE LIMIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION (IF EDIBLE) ! ! !

SO WHAT&#039;S SO DANGEROUS ABOUT THE LYNAS WASTE ?

IT CAN BE SAFELY EATEN (IF EDIBLE) FROM A RADIATION POINT OF VIEW WHEN BLENDED WITH AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MALAYSIAN SOIL !

Blending is an internationally accepted and legitimate way of decreasing the impact of a norm (naturally occurring radioactive material) on the environment and follows the basic safety principle of the World Health Organisation, International Labour Organisation and seven more UN and other reputable international organisations - with guidelines on this existing in many countries.

Once blended, all the so-called &quot;waste&quot; is by International and Malaysian standards NON-RADIOACTIVE and is fit even for human consumption.

AND SO IT IS SILLY TO ASK LYNAS TO SEND THE &quot;RADIOACTIVE WASTE&quot; OUT OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE  &quot;the radioactive waste&quot; NO LONGER EXIST after blending !

Regulatory limits on radioactivity in foods (source: IAEA)

USA foodstuff = 1.20 bq/g (1,200 bq/kg)

EU foodstuff = 1.25 bq/g (1,250 bq/kg)

Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).

Total &quot;waste&quot; from Lynas plant = 290,400 tonnes/yr consisting of:

1. water leach purification residue (WLP) = 64,000 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 6 bq/g

2. flue gas desulphurisation residue (FGD) = 55,800 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.049 bq/g

3. Neutralisation underflow residue (NUF) = 170,600 tonnes/yr &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.029 bq/g

Average Malaysian soil &#062;&#062;&#062;&#062; ~ 0.082 bq/g

if we are to mix the WLP, FGD and NUF together, we will end up with a mixture of &quot;waste&quot; with a radioactivity of only 1.349 bq/g and if we add an equal amount of Malaysian soil to the mixture we will end up with a valuable mixture of soil enriched with magnesium, calcium and phosphate with a radioactivity of only 0.715 bq/g.

And since this is way below 1 bq/g, it is internationally considered non-radioactive including in Malaysia, the USA and the EU.

Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).

Dominated by cesium-137 and SR-90, these levels were set by organisations like the IAEA and UNSCEAR after decades of study.

Dr Looi]]></description>
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If Lynas DID NOT SEPARATE OUT THEIR &#8220;WASTE&#8221; INTO the 3 COMPONENTS i.e. WLP, FGD and NUF, the Lynas &#8220;waste&#8221; would have a specific activity of only 1.35 Bq/g.</p>
<p>1.35 Bq/g is only marginally above the &#8220;safe to eat&#8221; level in the EU and the USA  of 1.25 Bq/g and 1.2 Bq/g respectively.</p>
<p>AND IF WE ADD AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MALAYSIAN SOIL TO THE ABOVE NON-SEPARATED &#8220;WASTE&#8221; THE ACTIVITY IS ONLY = 0.72 Bq/g.</p>
<p>0.72 Bq/g  is well within the international (including Malaysia, the EU and the USA) SAFE LIMIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION (IF EDIBLE) ! ! !</p>
<p>SO WHAT&#8217;S SO DANGEROUS ABOUT THE LYNAS WASTE ?</p>
<p>IT CAN BE SAFELY EATEN (IF EDIBLE) FROM A RADIATION POINT OF VIEW WHEN BLENDED WITH AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MALAYSIAN SOIL !</p>
<p>Blending is an internationally accepted and legitimate way of decreasing the impact of a norm (naturally occurring radioactive material) on the environment and follows the basic safety principle of the World Health Organisation, International Labour Organisation and seven more UN and other reputable international organisations &#8211; with guidelines on this existing in many countries.</p>
<p>Once blended, all the so-called &#8220;waste&#8221; is by International and Malaysian standards NON-RADIOACTIVE and is fit even for human consumption.</p>
<p>AND SO IT IS SILLY TO ASK LYNAS TO SEND THE &#8220;RADIOACTIVE WASTE&#8221; OUT OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE  &#8220;the radioactive waste&#8221; NO LONGER EXIST after blending !</p>
<p>Regulatory limits on radioactivity in foods (source: IAEA)</p>
<p>USA foodstuff = 1.20 bq/g (1,200 bq/kg)</p>
<p>EU foodstuff = 1.25 bq/g (1,250 bq/kg)</p>
<p>Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).</p>
<p>Total &#8220;waste&#8221; from Lynas plant = 290,400 tonnes/yr consisting of:</p>
<p>1. water leach purification residue (WLP) = 64,000 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 6 bq/g</p>
<p>2. flue gas desulphurisation residue (FGD) = 55,800 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.049 bq/g</p>
<p>3. Neutralisation underflow residue (NUF) = 170,600 tonnes/yr &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.029 bq/g</p>
<p>Average Malaysian soil &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ~ 0.082 bq/g</p>
<p>if we are to mix the WLP, FGD and NUF together, we will end up with a mixture of &#8220;waste&#8221; with a radioactivity of only 1.349 bq/g and if we add an equal amount of Malaysian soil to the mixture we will end up with a valuable mixture of soil enriched with magnesium, calcium and phosphate with a radioactivity of only 0.715 bq/g.</p>
<p>And since this is way below 1 bq/g, it is internationally considered non-radioactive including in Malaysia, the USA and the EU.</p>
<p>Accepted global limits on radioactivity levels in foods is 1000 bq/kg (1,200 bq/kg in the USA and 1,250 bq/g in the EU).</p>
<p>Dominated by cesium-137 and SR-90, these levels were set by organisations like the IAEA and UNSCEAR after decades of study.</p>
<p>Dr Looi</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[HOW AND WHY THE ANTI-LYNAS MADNESS STARTED IN MALAYSIA

You will notice that only the Malaysian Chinese and no other racial groups are involved in this comical anti-lynas debacle.

At present, about 95% of these rare earths are mined and refined in China.

If you look at all the foreign blogs and press, you will see that most of the commentators are saying that CHINA IS THE HIDDEN CULPRIT BEHIND ALL THIS NONSENSE !

You cannot blame the foreigners for doing so as:

PRACTICALLY ALL ANTI-LYNAS NINCOMPOOPS ARE CHINESE

PRACTICALLY ALL NON-CHINESE ARE PRO-LYNAS,

SO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION ?

CHINA IS THE ULTIMATE CULPRIT ! ! !

And this has triggered a lot of ill will, animosity, hatred and disgust for what was perceived as &quot;CHINA&#039;S DIRTY TRICKS AND MANIPULATIONS.&#039;

However, this is not the real truth.

Quote notorious Anti-Lynas Jade Lee: &quot;It may enlighten some readers here, if you are open minded enough to listen and to learn the truth,

IT WAS A FEW CHURCH LEADERS IN KUANTAN

who have first started to discuss the Lynas issue and to raise awareness of their congregation to oppose this project.&quot; Unquote.

So what really happens is that a few of the innocent church leaders in Kuantan who are always concerned about the sufferings of others, suddenly realised that a huge REE plant is being built nearby.

Unfortunately at about the same time, the Fukushima disaster occurred.

And to their horror, they found that the raw material to be used in the Lynas plant  was &quot;radioactive&quot; and with only a primitive knowledge of radiation, these concerned church leaders were flabbergasted and as Jade Lee said &quot;instigated their congregation to oppose this project.&quot;

Presumably, these leaders have only a rudimentary knowledge of economics and must have been very suspicious of why Australia would want to send the ore all the way to Malaysia for processing and falsely believing that Australia must be truly terrified about the refining process with all its &quot;dangerous, radioactive waste.&quot;

Once the madness started, a few of the local Chinese Newspapers, picked up the story and amplified the fear by persistently reporting on every word that the anti-lynas say, even though they are something that is obviously absurd.. like the Lynas plant is a nuclear plant and is going to explode and spread radioactivity all over the country.

These Chinese Newspapers which are traditionally anti-establishment, may also be partly irritated by Lynas brag that Lynas is going to end the monopoly of China on the Rare Earth market by producing almost a third of the present world production.

Then, as usual, the local politicians saw the fantastic opportunity to accuse the establishment of allowing such a dangerous plant to be established in Kuantan.

Because  the general election is coming soon, they could not let this golden opportunity to pass by, and so jump right into the fray.

With their massive financial backing, the opposition, together with some naive unthinking minds started the anti-lynas  campaign 

Since the local politician is a psychologist, this politician must be well versed in the techniques of convincing the population into believing something that is absolutely ridiculous.

It looks like they are using the same brainwashing techniques used by that devious demonic master brainwasher before and during the 2nd World War i.e. Hitler.

Brainwashing techniques are based on the consistently persistent repetition of propaganda focused on just a few issues and continuously repeated in a slightly different way.

According to Adolf Hitler in- &quot;War Propaganda&quot;, in volume 1, chapter 6 of Mein Kampf (1925)

&quot;But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success.&quot; Unquote.

One Chinese Newspaper in particular, has been reporting on a daily basis of everything that these anti-lynas folks were saying or doing, no matter stupid it is, like making fake coffins and doing silly walks.

This propaganda in the Chinese media is, like what is mentioned in Hitler&#039;s Mein Kampf, is focused, constant, continuous and persistent.

There are 4 stages in this Hitler type of  brainwashing procedure:

1.   DISSEMINATION OF PROPAGANDA (usually well camouflaged lies)

2.   HARASSMENT OF NON-BELIEVERS

3.   INTIMIDATION OF DISSIDENTS and

4.   ELIMINATION OF THE OBSTINATE DISSIDENTS

THE ANTI LYNAS RED GUARDS HAVE DEPLOYED AN ARMY OF CYBER HARASSERS AND CYBER THUGS IN ALL THE MALAYSIAN BLOGS AND OTHER NEWS MEDIA TO INTIMIDATE ANYONE WHO OPPOSE THEM AND THEY ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.

VERY FEW PEOPLE DARE TO SPEAK UP, AND ALL THOSE WHO DARE TO DO SO ARE BEING INTIMIDATED, HARASSED AND BOYCOTTED BY THE BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES.

THE MAIN AIM OF THESE CYBER THUGS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GETTING RID OF LYNAS, OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HELPING CHINA MAINTAIN THEIR GRIP ON THE REE MARKET, BUT THEY ARE USING THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO BRAINWASH AND INSTILL HATRED FOR THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT, THUS ENABLING THEM TO WIN THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION.

At present they have been hindered by a tiny group of dissidents in Kuantan and they are now blocked at stage 3.

As a result of the Chinese media, most of the Chinese were well brainwashed into believing the absolute crap that these anti-lynas people were propagating and disseminating.

Fortunately, all the other racial groups do not read Chinese and the propaganda do not affect them and as a result, the Malays and Indians are unaffected.

QUOTE Anti-Lynas Jade Lee: &quot;When a few so claimed rare earth scientists came to Kuantan to speak about the safe rare earth processing, they were criticised and BOOED OUT OF TOWN IN SHAME&quot; Unquote.

THE THREE RARE EARTH SPECIALISTS, RECOMMENDED BY THE CCP OF CHINA, WHO WERE INVITED BY A FEW OF THE LOCAL ASSOCIATIONS TO ENLIGHTEN THE PEOPLE OF KUANTAN WERE RUDELY AND CRUDELY HARASSED BY THE ANTILYNAS LEADER AND HIS RED GUARDS IN A SHAMELESS AND DESPICABLE WAY.

THESE INNOCENT FOREIGN GUESTS WERE BEING BOOED, SHOUTED AT, JEERED, MOCKED, CRITICIZED, TERRORIZED AND DEGRADED BY THESE
DESPICABLE, UNCOUTH COMMON HARASSERS WHO UNWITTINGLY DISPLAYED THEIR ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY FOR ALL TO SEE. 

THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR BRINGS SHAME TO ALL MALAYSIANS AND SHOULD BE STRONGLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY CONDEMNED.

THESE THREE POOR OLD CHINESE SCIENTISTS, TWO OF WHOM WERE IN THEIR 70&#039;S, WITH YEARS OF VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, WERE FLABBERGASTED BY SUCH STUPID, CHILDISH, DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR.

THE USE OF SUCH THUGGERY UNEQUIVOCALLY CATEGORIZES THE USERS INTO THE LOWEST RUNG OF SOCIETY AND REFLECTS BADLY ON THEIR CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE  AND UPBRINGING !

BECAUSE OF THEIR BULLYING TACTIC, VERY FEW PEOPLE DARE TO SPEAK UP, AND ALL THOSE WHO DARE TO DO SO ARE BEING INTIMIDATED, HARASSED AND BOYCOTTED BY THESE ZOMBIES


Dato&#039; Dr Looi Hoong Wah.
FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK), MRCP(London).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW AND WHY THE ANTI-LYNAS MADNESS STARTED IN MALAYSIA</p>
<p>You will notice that only the Malaysian Chinese and no other racial groups are involved in this comical anti-lynas debacle.</p>
<p>At present, about 95% of these rare earths are mined and refined in China.</p>
<p>If you look at all the foreign blogs and press, you will see that most of the commentators are saying that CHINA IS THE HIDDEN CULPRIT BEHIND ALL THIS NONSENSE !</p>
<p>You cannot blame the foreigners for doing so as:</p>
<p>PRACTICALLY ALL ANTI-LYNAS NINCOMPOOPS ARE CHINESE</p>
<p>PRACTICALLY ALL NON-CHINESE ARE PRO-LYNAS,</p>
<p>SO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION ?</p>
<p>CHINA IS THE ULTIMATE CULPRIT ! ! !</p>
<p>And this has triggered a lot of ill will, animosity, hatred and disgust for what was perceived as &#8220;CHINA&#8217;S DIRTY TRICKS AND MANIPULATIONS.&#8217;</p>
<p>However, this is not the real truth.</p>
<p>Quote notorious Anti-Lynas Jade Lee: &#8220;It may enlighten some readers here, if you are open minded enough to listen and to learn the truth,</p>
<p>IT WAS A FEW CHURCH LEADERS IN KUANTAN</p>
<p>who have first started to discuss the Lynas issue and to raise awareness of their congregation to oppose this project.&#8221; Unquote.</p>
<p>So what really happens is that a few of the innocent church leaders in Kuantan who are always concerned about the sufferings of others, suddenly realised that a huge REE plant is being built nearby.</p>
<p>Unfortunately at about the same time, the Fukushima disaster occurred.</p>
<p>And to their horror, they found that the raw material to be used in the Lynas plant  was &#8220;radioactive&#8221; and with only a primitive knowledge of radiation, these concerned church leaders were flabbergasted and as Jade Lee said &#8220;instigated their congregation to oppose this project.&#8221;</p>
<p>Presumably, these leaders have only a rudimentary knowledge of economics and must have been very suspicious of why Australia would want to send the ore all the way to Malaysia for processing and falsely believing that Australia must be truly terrified about the refining process with all its &#8220;dangerous, radioactive waste.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once the madness started, a few of the local Chinese Newspapers, picked up the story and amplified the fear by persistently reporting on every word that the anti-lynas say, even though they are something that is obviously absurd.. like the Lynas plant is a nuclear plant and is going to explode and spread radioactivity all over the country.</p>
<p>These Chinese Newspapers which are traditionally anti-establishment, may also be partly irritated by Lynas brag that Lynas is going to end the monopoly of China on the Rare Earth market by producing almost a third of the present world production.</p>
<p>Then, as usual, the local politicians saw the fantastic opportunity to accuse the establishment of allowing such a dangerous plant to be established in Kuantan.</p>
<p>Because  the general election is coming soon, they could not let this golden opportunity to pass by, and so jump right into the fray.</p>
<p>With their massive financial backing, the opposition, together with some naive unthinking minds started the anti-lynas  campaign </p>
<p>Since the local politician is a psychologist, this politician must be well versed in the techniques of convincing the population into believing something that is absolutely ridiculous.</p>
<p>It looks like they are using the same brainwashing techniques used by that devious demonic master brainwasher before and during the 2nd World War i.e. Hitler.</p>
<p>Brainwashing techniques are based on the consistently persistent repetition of propaganda focused on just a few issues and continuously repeated in a slightly different way.</p>
<p>According to Adolf Hitler in- &#8220;War Propaganda&#8221;, in volume 1, chapter 6 of Mein Kampf (1925)</p>
<p>&#8220;But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success.&#8221; Unquote.</p>
<p>One Chinese Newspaper in particular, has been reporting on a daily basis of everything that these anti-lynas folks were saying or doing, no matter stupid it is, like making fake coffins and doing silly walks.</p>
<p>This propaganda in the Chinese media is, like what is mentioned in Hitler&#8217;s Mein Kampf, is focused, constant, continuous and persistent.</p>
<p>There are 4 stages in this Hitler type of  brainwashing procedure:</p>
<p>1.   DISSEMINATION OF PROPAGANDA (usually well camouflaged lies)</p>
<p>2.   HARASSMENT OF NON-BELIEVERS</p>
<p>3.   INTIMIDATION OF DISSIDENTS and</p>
<p>4.   ELIMINATION OF THE OBSTINATE DISSIDENTS</p>
<p>THE ANTI LYNAS RED GUARDS HAVE DEPLOYED AN ARMY OF CYBER HARASSERS AND CYBER THUGS IN ALL THE MALAYSIAN BLOGS AND OTHER NEWS MEDIA TO INTIMIDATE ANYONE WHO OPPOSE THEM AND THEY ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.</p>
<p>VERY FEW PEOPLE DARE TO SPEAK UP, AND ALL THOSE WHO DARE TO DO SO ARE BEING INTIMIDATED, HARASSED AND BOYCOTTED BY THE BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES.</p>
<p>THE MAIN AIM OF THESE CYBER THUGS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GETTING RID OF LYNAS, OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HELPING CHINA MAINTAIN THEIR GRIP ON THE REE MARKET, BUT THEY ARE USING THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO BRAINWASH AND INSTILL HATRED FOR THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT, THUS ENABLING THEM TO WIN THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION.</p>
<p>At present they have been hindered by a tiny group of dissidents in Kuantan and they are now blocked at stage 3.</p>
<p>As a result of the Chinese media, most of the Chinese were well brainwashed into believing the absolute crap that these anti-lynas people were propagating and disseminating.</p>
<p>Fortunately, all the other racial groups do not read Chinese and the propaganda do not affect them and as a result, the Malays and Indians are unaffected.</p>
<p>QUOTE Anti-Lynas Jade Lee: &#8220;When a few so claimed rare earth scientists came to Kuantan to speak about the safe rare earth processing, they were criticised and BOOED OUT OF TOWN IN SHAME&#8221; Unquote.</p>
<p>THE THREE RARE EARTH SPECIALISTS, RECOMMENDED BY THE CCP OF CHINA, WHO WERE INVITED BY A FEW OF THE LOCAL ASSOCIATIONS TO ENLIGHTEN THE PEOPLE OF KUANTAN WERE RUDELY AND CRUDELY HARASSED BY THE ANTILYNAS LEADER AND HIS RED GUARDS IN A SHAMELESS AND DESPICABLE WAY.</p>
<p>THESE INNOCENT FOREIGN GUESTS WERE BEING BOOED, SHOUTED AT, JEERED, MOCKED, CRITICIZED, TERRORIZED AND DEGRADED BY THESE<br />
DESPICABLE, UNCOUTH COMMON HARASSERS WHO UNWITTINGLY DISPLAYED THEIR ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY FOR ALL TO SEE. </p>
<p>THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR BRINGS SHAME TO ALL MALAYSIANS AND SHOULD BE STRONGLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY CONDEMNED.</p>
<p>THESE THREE POOR OLD CHINESE SCIENTISTS, TWO OF WHOM WERE IN THEIR 70&#8217;S, WITH YEARS OF VALUABLE EXPERIENCE, WERE FLABBERGASTED BY SUCH STUPID, CHILDISH, DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR.</p>
<p>THE USE OF SUCH THUGGERY UNEQUIVOCALLY CATEGORIZES THE USERS INTO THE LOWEST RUNG OF SOCIETY AND REFLECTS BADLY ON THEIR CHARACTER, INTELLIGENCE  AND UPBRINGING !</p>
<p>BECAUSE OF THEIR BULLYING TACTIC, VERY FEW PEOPLE DARE TO SPEAK UP, AND ALL THOSE WHO DARE TO DO SO ARE BEING INTIMIDATED, HARASSED AND BOYCOTTED BY THESE ZOMBIES</p>
<p>Dato&#8217; Dr Looi Hoong Wah.<br />
FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK), MRCP(London).</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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1. Richard Martin, famous journalist with extensive experience in Thorium 

“A CHUNK OF THORIUM IS NO MORE HARMFUL THAN A BAR OF SOAP

?  :) ? ;)

2. United States Government Rare Earth Adviser and Expert Jack Lifton:

“LYNAS PLANT IS LARGEST AND SAFEST IN THE WORLD.”

?  :) ? ;)

3. Christoph Wilhelm, in charge of decommissioning Germany’s nuclear plants from Karlsruhr Institute of Technology:

“I WOULD MOVE MY WIFE and YOUNG CHILDREN TO LIVE IN THAT PLANT BECAUSE THE BACKGROUND RADIATION IS LOWER THAN WHERE I LIVE IN GERMANY.”

*
4. Scientists at John Hopkins University

” LOW DOSE RADIATION CANNOT CAUSE CONGENITAL DEFECTS”

?  :) ? ;)

5. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:

“THORIUM IN ‘WASTE’ IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.”

?  :) ? ;)

6. Professor WADE ALLISON OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY:

“THE DOSE LIMIT CAN SAFELY BE RAISED TO 100 mSv, based on current health statistics.”

?  :) ? ;)

7. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:

“RADIATION FROM THE PLANT WILL BE UNDETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES (of the plant).”

?  :) ? ;)

8. MORMAN FREDERICK MOORE, THE AUSTRALIAN MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM:

“IF LYNAS HAVE CHOSEN TO OPERATE IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA, IT WOULD BE WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS” !

?  :) ? ;)

9. UNSCEAR (The United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation): 

&quot;RADIATION DOSES LESS THAN ABOUT 10 rem ( 0.1 Sv ) ARE SAFE.&quot;

(Note: 0.1 Sv = 100 mSv or 50,000 times Lynas worst case scenario)

The linear no-threshold dose hypothesis (LNT) does not apply to doses less than 10 rem (0.1 Sv)

?  :) ? ;)

10.  Christoph Wilhelm from the Karlsruhr Institute of Technology, the man in charge of decommissioning Germany’s nuclear plants inspected the LAMP re radiation safety and made this comment 

“I WOULD MOVE MY WIFE AND YOUNG CHILDREN TO LIVE IN THAT PLANT BECAUSE THE BACKGROUND RADIATION IS LOWER THAN WHERE I LIVE IN GERMANY.”

?  :) ? ;)

11.  PROFESSOR DAVID BRADLEY, University of Surrey UK, with three-decade experience in the radiation protection and radiation physics field and have conducted more than 200 researches and publications in radiation protection and medical physics said:

&quot; THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE LYNAS ADVANCED MATERIALS PLANT WOULD CAUSE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OR HEALTH CONCERN.&quot;

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<p>1. Richard Martin, famous journalist with extensive experience in Thorium </p>
<p>“A CHUNK OF THORIUM IS NO MORE HARMFUL THAN A BAR OF SOAP</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>2. United States Government Rare Earth Adviser and Expert Jack Lifton:</p>
<p>“LYNAS PLANT IS LARGEST AND SAFEST IN THE WORLD.”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>3. Christoph Wilhelm, in charge of decommissioning Germany’s nuclear plants from Karlsruhr Institute of Technology:</p>
<p>“I WOULD MOVE MY WIFE and YOUNG CHILDREN TO LIVE IN THAT PLANT BECAUSE THE BACKGROUND RADIATION IS LOWER THAN WHERE I LIVE IN GERMANY.”</p>
<p>*<br />
4. Scientists at John Hopkins University</p>
<p>” LOW DOSE RADIATION CANNOT CAUSE CONGENITAL DEFECTS”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>5. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:</p>
<p>“THORIUM IN ‘WASTE’ IS INSOLUBLE AND CANNOT POISON ANY PLANTS, ANIMALS OR THE ENVIRONMENT – EVEN IN THEORY.”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>6. Professor WADE ALLISON OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY:</p>
<p>“THE DOSE LIMIT CAN SAFELY BE RAISED TO 100 mSv, based on current health statistics.”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>7. Nick Tsurikov, Renown International Radiation Safety Expert:</p>
<p>“RADIATION FROM THE PLANT WILL BE UNDETECTABLE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES (of the plant).”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>8. MORMAN FREDERICK MOORE, THE AUSTRALIAN MINISTER FOR MINES AND PETROLEUM:</p>
<p>“IF LYNAS HAVE CHOSEN TO OPERATE IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA, IT WOULD BE WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS” !</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>9. UNSCEAR (The United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation): </p>
<p>&#8220;RADIATION DOSES LESS THAN ABOUT 10 rem ( 0.1 Sv ) ARE SAFE.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Note: 0.1 Sv = 100 mSv or 50,000 times Lynas worst case scenario)</p>
<p>The linear no-threshold dose hypothesis (LNT) does not apply to doses less than 10 rem (0.1 Sv)</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>10.  Christoph Wilhelm from the Karlsruhr Institute of Technology, the man in charge of decommissioning Germany’s nuclear plants inspected the LAMP re radiation safety and made this comment </p>
<p>“I WOULD MOVE MY WIFE AND YOUNG CHILDREN TO LIVE IN THAT PLANT BECAUSE THE BACKGROUND RADIATION IS LOWER THAN WHERE I LIVE IN GERMANY.”</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
<p>11.  PROFESSOR DAVID BRADLEY, University of Surrey UK, with three-decade experience in the radiation protection and radiation physics field and have conducted more than 200 researches and publications in radiation protection and medical physics said:</p>
<p>&#8221; THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE LYNAS ADVANCED MATERIALS PLANT WOULD CAUSE AN ENVIRONMENTAL OR HEALTH CONCERN.&#8221;</p>
<p>?  :) ? ;)</p>
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		<link>https://www.techmetalsresearch.net/a-visit-to-the-lynas-advanced-materials-plant/#comment-5799</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[QUOTE: Gerhard Schmidt, of Oeko Institute:

&quot;MAIN RESULTS: WASTE MANAGEMENT

Our own dose calculation based on Lynas waste data shows:

# The WLP waste with the highest radioactive content would be by a factor of more than 1,000 above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).

# Even if diluted 1:1 with gypsum the WLP waste is 200-fold above those internationally accepted levels!

# Even if diluted 1:100 with gypsum (technically unrealistic) the doses would still exceed BRC level!

# Even the less contaminated wastes FGD and NUF are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released (assumed that the material properties meet the necessary requirements and their toxic by-product content is below any non-radiological environmental concern).&quot;
Unquote.


COMMENT:

The operation of the plant will result in the generation of three major residue streams, namely the

1. WLP .. Water Leach Purification Residue (WLP) from the cracking and separation process. This is the only slightly radioactive residue at ~ 6 Bq/gm or about 5.7 Bq/g of Thorium-232.

2.  FGD .. the Flue Gas Desulphurisation Residue (FGD) from the waste gas treatment system (scrubber) ~ 12 ppm,

3.  NUF .. Neutralisation Underflow Solids from the wastewater treatment process (NUF) ~ 7 ppm of Thorium-232

BOTH THE FGD AND NUF HAS LESS THAN 12 ppm (parts per million) of THORIUM-232.

MALAYSIAN SOIL HAS AN AVERAGE OF 20 ppm of Thorium

Quote Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-Author of the IAEA Safety Report on Radioactivity: 

&quot; If you do look through the Lynas RIA together with UN (not IAEA) reports - you will clearly see that two most &#039;voluminous&#039; residues from LAMP will have less than 12 parts per million of thorium - and the average Malaysian soil - 20 parts per million of thorium.

In fact most of Lynas residues are only half as radioactive as the sand the kids all over Malaysia play in the kindergartens&quot; Unquote.

SO, ACCORDING TO OEKO, If 12 ppm are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released,

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SOIL IN THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA WHICH HAS 20 ppm OF THORIUM ?

THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA IS above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).

ALL MALAYSIANS HAVE TO MIGRATE TO GERMANY OR SWIM TO AUSTRALIA !

THIS IS JUST PURE INSANITY ! ! !

With reference to the misleading claim that the radioactivity from the Lynas &quot;waste&quot; was 1,000 TIMES ABOVE INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED PROTECTION LEVELS for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control, have a look at this rebuttal by Nick Tsurikov the Renown International Radiation Safety Expert who is the co-author of the IAEA safety report:

&quot; GERHARD SCHMIDT IS SO OBVIOUSLY WRONG that it is not even funny.

The WLP waste produced by Lynas would be 6 to 7 times above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER WHERE HE GOT &quot;1000 TIMES&quot; FROM... 

But I would like to respectfully note that a researcher/scientist from Germany is unlikely to have more knowledge and understanding of the issue than numerous reputable UN and other organisations, such as:

- World Health Organisation,

- UN Environment Programme,

- International Labor Organisation,

- International Atomic Energy Agency,

- Pan-American Health Organisation etc. etc.,

Which ALL agreed once again in the 2011 &#039;basic safety standards&#039; that the materials below 1 Bq/g are beyond regulatory concern.

If there is some other international opinion, it surely is not accepted by the vast majority of the world...&quot; Unquote.

Warmest regards,


Dato&#039; Dr Looi Hoong Wah
FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK) MRCP(London)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE: Gerhard Schmidt, of Oeko Institute:</p>
<p>&#8220;MAIN RESULTS: WASTE MANAGEMENT</p>
<p>Our own dose calculation based on Lynas waste data shows:</p>
<p># The WLP waste with the highest radioactive content would be by a factor of more than 1,000 above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).</p>
<p># Even if diluted 1:1 with gypsum the WLP waste is 200-fold above those internationally accepted levels!</p>
<p># Even if diluted 1:100 with gypsum (technically unrealistic) the doses would still exceed BRC level!</p>
<p># Even the less contaminated wastes FGD and NUF are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released (assumed that the material properties meet the necessary requirements and their toxic by-product content is below any non-radiological environmental concern).&#8221;<br />
Unquote.</p>
<p>COMMENT:</p>
<p>The operation of the plant will result in the generation of three major residue streams, namely the</p>
<p>1. WLP .. Water Leach Purification Residue (WLP) from the cracking and separation process. This is the only slightly radioactive residue at ~ 6 Bq/gm or about 5.7 Bq/g of Thorium-232.</p>
<p>2.  FGD .. the Flue Gas Desulphurisation Residue (FGD) from the waste gas treatment system (scrubber) ~ 12 ppm,</p>
<p>3.  NUF .. Neutralisation Underflow Solids from the wastewater treatment process (NUF) ~ 7 ppm of Thorium-232</p>
<p>BOTH THE FGD AND NUF HAS LESS THAN 12 ppm (parts per million) of THORIUM-232.</p>
<p>MALAYSIAN SOIL HAS AN AVERAGE OF 20 ppm of Thorium</p>
<p>Quote Nick Tsurikov, International Radiation Safety Expert and Co-Author of the IAEA Safety Report on Radioactivity: </p>
<p>&#8221; If you do look through the Lynas RIA together with UN (not IAEA) reports &#8211; you will clearly see that two most &#8216;voluminous&#8217; residues from LAMP will have less than 12 parts per million of thorium &#8211; and the average Malaysian soil &#8211; 20 parts per million of thorium.</p>
<p>In fact most of Lynas residues are only half as radioactive as the sand the kids all over Malaysia play in the kindergartens&#8221; Unquote.</p>
<p>SO, ACCORDING TO OEKO, If 12 ppm are above that level and require 1:4 resp. 1:9 mixing before they can be released,</p>
<p>WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SOIL IN THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA WHICH HAS 20 ppm OF THORIUM ?</p>
<p>THE WHOLE OF MALAYSIA IS above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control (Beyond Regulatory Concern, BRC level).</p>
<p>ALL MALAYSIANS HAVE TO MIGRATE TO GERMANY OR SWIM TO AUSTRALIA !</p>
<p>THIS IS JUST PURE INSANITY ! ! !</p>
<p>With reference to the misleading claim that the radioactivity from the Lynas &#8220;waste&#8221; was 1,000 TIMES ABOVE INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED PROTECTION LEVELS for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control, have a look at this rebuttal by Nick Tsurikov the Renown International Radiation Safety Expert who is the co-author of the IAEA safety report:</p>
<p>&#8221; GERHARD SCHMIDT IS SO OBVIOUSLY WRONG that it is not even funny.</p>
<p>The WLP waste produced by Lynas would be 6 to 7 times above internationally accepted protection levels for the release of radioactive materials from regulatory control.</p>
<p>I HAVE NO IDEA WHATSOEVER WHERE HE GOT &#8220;1000 TIMES&#8221; FROM&#8230; </p>
<p>But I would like to respectfully note that a researcher/scientist from Germany is unlikely to have more knowledge and understanding of the issue than numerous reputable UN and other organisations, such as:</p>
<p>&#8211; World Health Organisation,</p>
<p>&#8211; UN Environment Programme,</p>
<p>&#8211; International Labor Organisation,</p>
<p>&#8211; International Atomic Energy Agency,</p>
<p>&#8211; Pan-American Health Organisation etc. etc.,</p>
<p>Which ALL agreed once again in the 2011 &#8216;basic safety standards&#8217; that the materials below 1 Bq/g are beyond regulatory concern.</p>
<p>If there is some other international opinion, it surely is not accepted by the vast majority of the world&#8230;&#8221; Unquote.</p>
<p>Warmest regards,</p>
<p>Dato&#8217; Dr Looi Hoong Wah<br />
FAMM, MB., ChB(Manchester), MRCS(England), MRCP(UK) MRCP(London)</p>
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