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	Comments on: The WTO Panel Report On Chinese Rare Earth Exports	</title>
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		By: KenB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KenB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any appeal will be decided on the proper application of the law.  If there was no legal fault in the judgement and the decision the decision will stand.  It is rare to have a WTO decision over turned.  The next decision will be up to China when their appeal is denied.  

If they then decide to flood the market with LRE it will all but eliminate the nascent industry outside of China.  If they choose to ignore the ruling what risk do they run in the world economic community when they (like the Arabs during the oil crisis) have us over a barrel.  

The value added piece is critical, the raw and processed material is incidental.  The intermediate products like magnets, optics, etc. and developing larger assemblies is where the money is and China controls most of that as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any appeal will be decided on the proper application of the law.  If there was no legal fault in the judgement and the decision the decision will stand.  It is rare to have a WTO decision over turned.  The next decision will be up to China when their appeal is denied.  </p>
<p>If they then decide to flood the market with LRE it will all but eliminate the nascent industry outside of China.  If they choose to ignore the ruling what risk do they run in the world economic community when they (like the Arabs during the oil crisis) have us over a barrel.  </p>
<p>The value added piece is critical, the raw and processed material is incidental.  The intermediate products like magnets, optics, etc. and developing larger assemblies is where the money is and China controls most of that as well.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gareth, Thanks for bringing light to the issue. I am particularly interested in the Tungsten aspect of this. The decades long Chinese lockdown on Tungsten has caused a considerable price escalation and any news of a policy change will create a significant correction in all things Tungsten. I also welcome any news on policy changes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gareth, Thanks for bringing light to the issue. I am particularly interested in the Tungsten aspect of this. The decades long Chinese lockdown on Tungsten has caused a considerable price escalation and any news of a policy change will create a significant correction in all things Tungsten. I also welcome any news on policy changes.</p>
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		By: Gareth Hatch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gareth Hatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks folks, for your comments.

@MANAMOHAN PURANDHAR - will post more as soon as we hear the outcome of the expected appeal.

@Gennady - given that there 55+ projects which have defined mineral resources, I&#039;m not sure that finding new deposits of REEs is the problem…


@Mike Holt: tying into my last comment - I completely agree that the issue for the REE sector outside of China is the downstream value-add portion that also predominately exists in China. The good thing is that unlike the REE deposits themselves, we can move that part of the supply chain fairly easily….

@Simon Schillebeeckx - interesting piece that you wrote. I don&#039;t think that REE prices are so meticulously set I&#039;m in the way that you describe (social marginal cost / marginal cost etc). It is also likely (though not definite) that any appeal will be on the basis of the facts previously presented, and since China did not, to my knowledge, mention Article XXXVII in its responses to the WTO Panel, it&#039;s unlikely that it&#039;ll come up now. BUT - you never know, and it&#039;s certainly an interesting avenue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks folks, for your comments.</p>
<p>@MANAMOHAN PURANDHAR &#8211; will post more as soon as we hear the outcome of the expected appeal.</p>
<p>@Gennady &#8211; given that there 55+ projects which have defined mineral resources, I&#8217;m not sure that finding new deposits of REEs is the problem…</p>
<p>@Mike Holt: tying into my last comment &#8211; I completely agree that the issue for the REE sector outside of China is the downstream value-add portion that also predominately exists in China. The good thing is that unlike the REE deposits themselves, we can move that part of the supply chain fairly easily….</p>
<p>@Simon Schillebeeckx &#8211; interesting piece that you wrote. I don&#8217;t think that REE prices are so meticulously set I&#8217;m in the way that you describe (social marginal cost / marginal cost etc). It is also likely (though not definite) that any appeal will be on the basis of the facts previously presented, and since China did not, to my knowledge, mention Article XXXVII in its responses to the WTO Panel, it&#8217;s unlikely that it&#8217;ll come up now. BUT &#8211; you never know, and it&#8217;s certainly an interesting avenue.</p>
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		By: Marcello Eusani		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcello Eusani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;China should strengthen the end applications of the rare earth industry, focusing on developing key technologies that can create higher added value to reverse the current trend of just selling rare earth materials abroad for a cheap price, experts said.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;China should strengthen the end applications of the rare earth industry, focusing on developing key technologies that can create higher added value to reverse the current trend of just selling rare earth materials abroad for a cheap price, experts said.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Simon Schillebeeckx		</title>
		<link>https://www.techmetalsresearch.net/the-wto-panel-report-on-chinese-rare-earth-exports/#comment-6797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Schillebeeckx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 08:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Gareth,

Thanks a lot for your article, very interesting. I&#039;d be interested in your views on the blogpost I wrote following reading your account. 
You can find it here:  
http://imperial-business-blog.com/2014/04/05/after-the-wto-ruling-can-china-appeal-successfully/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gareth,</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your article, very interesting. I&#8217;d be interested in your views on the blogpost I wrote following reading your account.<br />
You can find it here:<br />
<a href="http://imperial-business-blog.com/2014/04/05/after-the-wto-ruling-can-china-appeal-successfully/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://imperial-business-blog.com/2014/04/05/after-the-wto-ruling-can-china-appeal-successfully/</a></p>
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		By: Dr Allan Branch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Allan Branch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 05:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done Gareth, Allan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Gareth, Allan.</p>
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		By: Mike Holt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Holt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 03:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gareth.  This is an excellent summary of the WTO&#039;s findings and their underlying rationale, as well as a well balanced analysis of the implications for:

- rare earths mining companies inside and outside of China;
 
- producers of rare-earths-based components in downstream industries inside and outside of China; and

- Chinese and non-Chinese end users of products containing rare-earths-based components.

Next, it would be interesting to learn what, if any, actions are being taken to develop downstream industries outside China capable of producing rare-earths based components critical to many high tech applications, and whether any end users manufacturing products reliant upon rare earths will acquire upstream businesses in order to ensure access to the rare earths based components required for their products to remain competitive in the global marketplace.  

Even though the market for rare earths is relatively small, and competition from Chinese producers of rare earths and rare-earths-based components will further limit the potential size of profits that can be generated from sales of rare earths and generic rare-earths-based components, the profit margins on end products benefitting from the unique qualities imparted by rare earths can be very significant.  As such, this would seem to create an incentive for manufacturers of higher-margin end products to take steps to ensure access to these critical components even if the relatively small cost of those components was modestly higher relative to their costs if they were purchased from less reliable sources.   

For example, paying $0.15 rather than $0.10 for a component that will result in much higher sales volumes of products generating profits of well over $100.00 per unit should be recognized as a sound investment, even if China does decide to abide by WTO rulings, for now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gareth.  This is an excellent summary of the WTO&#8217;s findings and their underlying rationale, as well as a well balanced analysis of the implications for:</p>
<p>&#8211; rare earths mining companies inside and outside of China;</p>
<p>&#8211; producers of rare-earths-based components in downstream industries inside and outside of China; and</p>
<p>&#8211; Chinese and non-Chinese end users of products containing rare-earths-based components.</p>
<p>Next, it would be interesting to learn what, if any, actions are being taken to develop downstream industries outside China capable of producing rare-earths based components critical to many high tech applications, and whether any end users manufacturing products reliant upon rare earths will acquire upstream businesses in order to ensure access to the rare earths based components required for their products to remain competitive in the global marketplace.  </p>
<p>Even though the market for rare earths is relatively small, and competition from Chinese producers of rare earths and rare-earths-based components will further limit the potential size of profits that can be generated from sales of rare earths and generic rare-earths-based components, the profit margins on end products benefitting from the unique qualities imparted by rare earths can be very significant.  As such, this would seem to create an incentive for manufacturers of higher-margin end products to take steps to ensure access to these critical components even if the relatively small cost of those components was modestly higher relative to their costs if they were purchased from less reliable sources.   </p>
<p>For example, paying $0.15 rather than $0.10 for a component that will result in much higher sales volumes of products generating profits of well over $100.00 per unit should be recognized as a sound investment, even if China does decide to abide by WTO rulings, for now.</p>
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		By: Sara		</title>
		<link>https://www.techmetalsresearch.net/the-wto-panel-report-on-chinese-rare-earth-exports/#comment-6787</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2014 01:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Ron R. I was told it might be difficult to find the original document, complex organizations and all, so it was a terrific help to have it hand delivered by Garth! I will be diving into the doc soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ron R. I was told it might be difficult to find the original document, complex organizations and all, so it was a terrific help to have it hand delivered by Garth! I will be diving into the doc soon.</p>
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		By: Gennady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gennady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Gareth Hatch.
I can start searching for yttrium, cerium, and others.$299000   a year.
Example : 220000sq km, 1 (32) samples,  (max/min):
Cu (791), Y(512), Pb (255), Zn (274), Mn (258), Fe (211), Ti (125), Ce (120), Ni (161), Mo (116), Ba (131), Na (110), Al (107), Sr (83),Li (67), Au (47), Co (49), Ca (50), As (30), Mg (48), V (30), Cr (53),  
P (30), Rb (33), Zr (37), Ga (32), Sb (18), Th (14), Ag (18), La (11), Cs (48), Nb (9), K (90), Cd (10),
 Hf (4.6), Sn (4), U(3), Bi (2.5), Sc (33), Tl (1), Be (1), B (2), Hg (3), Te (1),
 (W-S-Se-Ge-Ta-In-Re-Pd- Pt)-? 
Highlighted elements deposits and occurrences are already known.
Analysis revealed Mineral deposit: Gibraltar(Cu, Mo), Highland Valley (Cu, Mo), Endako (Mo), Mount Polley (Cu, Au, Ag),  
Bralorne MINE- Au(130?/18?/?): +(Fe, S, As, Hg, Cu, Pb, Zn,Ag,W), 4 placer (Au, Pt )- Fraser River, Thompson, Cariboo, Omineca.
 Recommendation: The search for new deposits  Cu,Y,Pb,Zn,Mn,Fe,Ti,Ce]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Gareth Hatch.<br />
I can start searching for yttrium, cerium, and others.$299000   a year.<br />
Example : 220000sq km, 1 (32) samples,  (max/min):<br />
Cu (791), Y(512), Pb (255), Zn (274), Mn (258), Fe (211), Ti (125), Ce (120), Ni (161), Mo (116), Ba (131), Na (110), Al (107), Sr (83),Li (67), Au (47), Co (49), Ca (50), As (30), Mg (48), V (30), Cr (53),<br />
P (30), Rb (33), Zr (37), Ga (32), Sb (18), Th (14), Ag (18), La (11), Cs (48), Nb (9), K (90), Cd (10),<br />
 Hf (4.6), Sn (4), U(3), Bi (2.5), Sc (33), Tl (1), Be (1), B (2), Hg (3), Te (1),<br />
 (W-S-Se-Ge-Ta-In-Re-Pd- Pt)-?<br />
Highlighted elements deposits and occurrences are already known.<br />
Analysis revealed Mineral deposit: Gibraltar(Cu, Mo), Highland Valley (Cu, Mo), Endako (Mo), Mount Polley (Cu, Au, Ag),<br />
Bralorne MINE- Au(130?/18?/?): +(Fe, S, As, Hg, Cu, Pb, Zn,Ag,W), 4 placer (Au, Pt )- Fraser River, Thompson, Cariboo, Omineca.<br />
 Recommendation: The search for new deposits  Cu,Y,Pb,Zn,Mn,Fe,Ti,Ce</p>
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		By: DJ Christian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ Christian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent report !      Very informative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent report !      Very informative.</p>
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