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	Comments on: What Molycorp Has NOT Said About Its Future Rare Earth Production (Until Now)	</title>
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		By: Pleasant Pheasant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pleasant Pheasant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regardless of the rhetoric or analysis, if you are talking resources, then compare Mountain Pass with Mt. Weld.
If considering corporate success, then compare California versus Malaysia wrt approving (rubber stamping) environmentally/politically controversial projects.
Lynas has it bagged up and on its way. It will be well into its phase 2 - 22,000 tpa before Moly wakes up for breakfast]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the rhetoric or analysis, if you are talking resources, then compare Mountain Pass with Mt. Weld.<br />
If considering corporate success, then compare California versus Malaysia wrt approving (rubber stamping) environmentally/politically controversial projects.<br />
Lynas has it bagged up and on its way. It will be well into its phase 2 &#8211; 22,000 tpa before Moly wakes up for breakfast</p>
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		By: fran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[an answer lays in the quantity of shares bought by insiders at $ 31 vs. quanity sold  at $ 51. view the financial beliefs of the  board of dirctors [ principal owners ] since jan. 2011.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an answer lays in the quantity of shares bought by insiders at $ 31 vs. quanity sold  at $ 51. view the financial beliefs of the  board of dirctors [ principal owners ] since jan. 2011.</p>
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		By: Stephan Mayer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephan Mayer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,
so what I am understanding is, that except Stans, there is no other HREE separation plant outside China or India, correct? So how long would it take to ramp up western separation plants for HREE? What about companies like Rhodia, ShinEtsu, Avalon or Lynas? Does anybody know of ramp up plannings and timing?
Thanks
Stephan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
so what I am understanding is, that except Stans, there is no other HREE separation plant outside China or India, correct? So how long would it take to ramp up western separation plants for HREE? What about companies like Rhodia, ShinEtsu, Avalon or Lynas? Does anybody know of ramp up plannings and timing?<br />
Thanks<br />
Stephan</p>
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		By: chihawk- Paul San Antonio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chihawk- Paul San Antonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess my issue with the Moly HREE strategy is the way they separate the key conversations. They talk about having monazite; then they talk about their ability to crack and process monazite; then they talk about storing waste paste on a liner system instead of building a pond. I have my doubts that this fits together. 

How much thorium would be in the waste processed from monazite? And are they permitted to turn monazite waste (higher in thorium) into waste paste and allowed to store it on a liner system where erosion (especially from dryness and wind) could easily spread the thorium? I also blame the media and analysts for these &quot;holes&quot; in that Moly is so rarely challenged for such a weak approach they have already become use to half a plan with a lot of nonsense. 

And every Q &#038; A is all shops and all questions on numbers with nothing on these holes in the Moly plans. And how does that make sense in a stock with a PE way over 100?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my issue with the Moly HREE strategy is the way they separate the key conversations. They talk about having monazite; then they talk about their ability to crack and process monazite; then they talk about storing waste paste on a liner system instead of building a pond. I have my doubts that this fits together. </p>
<p>How much thorium would be in the waste processed from monazite? And are they permitted to turn monazite waste (higher in thorium) into waste paste and allowed to store it on a liner system where erosion (especially from dryness and wind) could easily spread the thorium? I also blame the media and analysts for these &#8220;holes&#8221; in that Moly is so rarely challenged for such a weak approach they have already become use to half a plan with a lot of nonsense. </p>
<p>And every Q &amp; A is all shops and all questions on numbers with nothing on these holes in the Moly plans. And how does that make sense in a stock with a PE way over 100?</p>
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		By: Gareth Hatch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gareth Hatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gordon Clarke: my understanding is that metal making will take place at LCM in the UK, with alloy manufacturing at both the LCM and GWTI facilities.

@Ausheds: I&#039;ve not really seen any red flags pertaining to Molycorp&#039;s ability to produce the Ce, La and Nd-Pr-based products that they say will constitute 99% of their production going forward.

@Shawn: Molycorp&#039;s Mr. Smith specifically mentioned on the conference call, that they established the capability of producing Nd metal at their Sillamae facility in Estonia last month. That facility was already producing other types of rare metals. It&#039;s my understanding that the Molycorp Tolleson facility also produces rare-earth metals, though I am not sure of which specific types.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gordon Clarke: my understanding is that metal making will take place at LCM in the UK, with alloy manufacturing at both the LCM and GWTI facilities.</p>
<p>@Ausheds: I&#8217;ve not really seen any red flags pertaining to Molycorp&#8217;s ability to produce the Ce, La and Nd-Pr-based products that they say will constitute 99% of their production going forward.</p>
<p>@Shawn: Molycorp&#8217;s Mr. Smith specifically mentioned on the conference call, that they established the capability of producing Nd metal at their Sillamae facility in Estonia last month. That facility was already producing other types of rare metals. It&#8217;s my understanding that the Molycorp Tolleson facility also produces rare-earth metals, though I am not sure of which specific types.</p>
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		By: Shawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very insight analysis.  One question - believe Molycorp has been trying to be a major vertical player from mining to products as they purchased some small companies, do they have any commercial capabilities in converting metal oxide to pure metals?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insight analysis.  One question &#8211; believe Molycorp has been trying to be a major vertical player from mining to products as they purchased some small companies, do they have any commercial capabilities in converting metal oxide to pure metals?</p>
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		By: Ausheds		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quality analysis &#038; reporting Gareth. Very much highlights how Moly really does need to get the basics right.  Stage 1 up to steady state with something close to the very low production costs they are claiming and reliable offtake agreements for all that Ce &#038; La they are going to produce. If they can get that far perhaps some of their other grand schemes might be worth examining. The market doesn&#039;t seem to be giving them much credibility ATM and that&#039;s not healthy for the RE industry as a whole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quality analysis &amp; reporting Gareth. Very much highlights how Moly really does need to get the basics right.  Stage 1 up to steady state with something close to the very low production costs they are claiming and reliable offtake agreements for all that Ce &amp; La they are going to produce. If they can get that far perhaps some of their other grand schemes might be worth examining. The market doesn&#8217;t seem to be giving them much credibility ATM and that&#8217;s not healthy for the RE industry as a whole.</p>
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		By: Gordon Clarke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Clarke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was a bit of a leading question. What is the GWMG/GQD JV going to produce in SA with ore from Steen, titanium tailings and &quot;other sources&quot; (al la Molycorps treminology)?  If refined oxides then what is LCM going to do with them. The point of my question was to stir up some interest in GWTI in Troy Michigan. Note the recent appointments and/or reappointments just announced from GWMG. I sure hope the GQD thing goes ahead. Then photocopy that into North America using GWTI.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a bit of a leading question. What is the GWMG/GQD JV going to produce in SA with ore from Steen, titanium tailings and &#8220;other sources&#8221; (al la Molycorps treminology)?  If refined oxides then what is LCM going to do with them. The point of my question was to stir up some interest in GWTI in Troy Michigan. Note the recent appointments and/or reappointments just announced from GWMG. I sure hope the GQD thing goes ahead. Then photocopy that into North America using GWTI.</p>
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		By: Gareth Hatch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gareth Hatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gordon Clarke: I am not aware of any commercial facilities that presently exist in North America for the processing of HREE-rich concentrates into separated oxides and other finished goods.

With regard to your other comments concerning Mountain Pass, I can&#039;t say that I&#039;ve come across any evidence that would suggest that there is an issue of the facility being a &quot;toxic waste dump&quot;, despite the rhetoric of certain activists and others. Given the scrutiny of the authorities in California, I find it hard to believe that such issues, if they existed, would not have already been addressed.

@Toly: I don&#039;t recall the issue of taxes being discussed on the call, but you could check the transcript of the call, which is available at Seeking Alpha: http://bit.ly/tSqvxt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gordon Clarke: I am not aware of any commercial facilities that presently exist in North America for the processing of HREE-rich concentrates into separated oxides and other finished goods.</p>
<p>With regard to your other comments concerning Mountain Pass, I can&#8217;t say that I&#8217;ve come across any evidence that would suggest that there is an issue of the facility being a &#8220;toxic waste dump&#8221;, despite the rhetoric of certain activists and others. Given the scrutiny of the authorities in California, I find it hard to believe that such issues, if they existed, would not have already been addressed.</p>
<p>@Toly: I don&#8217;t recall the issue of taxes being discussed on the call, but you could check the transcript of the call, which is available at Seeking Alpha: <a href="http://bit.ly/tSqvxt" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bit.ly/tSqvxt</a>.</p>
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		By: Toly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Gareth, was there any mention of Moly actually mining the tailings pit that contains an estimated 10-20 millions tons of tailings from previous operations?  This would seem to be a huge resource if they choose to develop it...

From a Seeking Alpha article 4/25/2011;

&quot;... Molycorp currently also has mining claims on what they estimate is the second richest rare earth deposit in North America and it’s a three minute walk or van drive from the open pit at Mountain Pass. It is the tailings pit that contains 10-20 million tons of tailings created by the 50+ year operational history of Mountain Pass. The estimated TREO of the tailings pit is 4-5% with four to five times the HREE/TREO percentage found in the main Mountain Pass ore body.&quot;
and;

&quot;...it was kind of surreal realizing that the richest rare earth deposit in North America was the source of the second richest and that the new Molycorp facilities are literally a two minute walk from it.&quot;

Also;

&quot;The reason no one is talking about this tailings pit which could add an additional ten years of full production to the mine life of Mountain Pass is because it is a non-compliant resource. We asked management why they wouldn&#039;t try to upgrade it to a compliant resource and we were told that if the compliant resource is higher then the property tax bill will go higher. Management indicated their goal is to have a compliant resource to supply 30 years of mine life and based on our calculations they technically do right now before adjusting for Phase II doubling capacity, so the way we see it there is no need to upgrade this tailings pit to being a compliant resource for many years to come.&quot;

Thanks…  
Jay

http://seekingalpha.com/article/265291-molycorp-s-project-phoenix-rising-along-with-its-npv]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gareth, was there any mention of Moly actually mining the tailings pit that contains an estimated 10-20 millions tons of tailings from previous operations?  This would seem to be a huge resource if they choose to develop it&#8230;</p>
<p>From a Seeking Alpha article 4/25/2011;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Molycorp currently also has mining claims on what they estimate is the second richest rare earth deposit in North America and it’s a three minute walk or van drive from the open pit at Mountain Pass. It is the tailings pit that contains 10-20 million tons of tailings created by the 50+ year operational history of Mountain Pass. The estimated TREO of the tailings pit is 4-5% with four to five times the HREE/TREO percentage found in the main Mountain Pass ore body.&#8221;<br />
and;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;it was kind of surreal realizing that the richest rare earth deposit in North America was the source of the second richest and that the new Molycorp facilities are literally a two minute walk from it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also;</p>
<p>&#8220;The reason no one is talking about this tailings pit which could add an additional ten years of full production to the mine life of Mountain Pass is because it is a non-compliant resource. We asked management why they wouldn&#8217;t try to upgrade it to a compliant resource and we were told that if the compliant resource is higher then the property tax bill will go higher. Management indicated their goal is to have a compliant resource to supply 30 years of mine life and based on our calculations they technically do right now before adjusting for Phase II doubling capacity, so the way we see it there is no need to upgrade this tailings pit to being a compliant resource for many years to come.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks…<br />
Jay</p>
<p><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/265291-molycorp-s-project-phoenix-rising-along-with-its-npv" rel="nofollow ugc">http://seekingalpha.com/article/265291-molycorp-s-project-phoenix-rising-along-with-its-npv</a></p>
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